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Post by bibbinut on Jan 15, 2009 14:21:55 GMT -6
I've recently re-read this article.
I found the article to be well written, thought-provoking and not at all offensive to women.
I would like to know what everyone here thinks of the article.
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Post by juanita on Jan 16, 2009 18:56:28 GMT -6
Well, I had to register just so I could answer--hope you don't mind, since I wasn't one "here" . . . ;-) I do agree with what you've said. I personally found it wryly amusing! Anyone taking offense (other than the "Suits"!) simply failed to comprehend what he said. I do not know, even after having finished "Confessions", whether he is a feminist or a male chauvinist, but it does not seem to me that he has anything against strong female characters--just perverting what the original Battlestar Galactica WAS. They were capitalizing on the name, the franchise, but making the concept totally different, too cowardly to come up with a new name, or new character names!
Anyway, I LOVE his use of words, and especially the play on words in the title! I have to smile every time I think of it.
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Post by ostarella on Jan 16, 2009 20:39:14 GMT -6
What I came away with was the realization (or maybe reminder) of how so many women have been swept up into a way of thinking about themselves and what they "should be", and Hollywood was right there to take advantage of it. The whole basis of the feminist movement wasn't to make women into Amazons; it was to break open the confines women had been forced into and allow them to make up their own minds what they wanted to be (and take men right along with them). Instead, it was perverted into enemy camps. The suits decided that the women in faux BSG should be these Amazons and women decided that these would be their heroes - er, heroines. Whatever. So any perceived "attack" on the show - even if it were only being used as an example for the whole Hollywood mindset - was an attack on women in general. Which is balderdash, of course.
The whole perversion of feminism was clearly illustrated to me at a convention in Vancouver a few years ago (some of you have heard this story before  ). They had a panel of women from various Sci-Fi shows on, and they and the audience were totally enthralled with all the "strong women" portrayed on TV and in the movies. Then they turned around and whined about not having mentors to help women get into directing and producing. So much for strong women. I not only found that hypocritical, but I doubt very much they'd have managed very well in the "real world".
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Post by bibbinut on Jan 17, 2009 10:50:19 GMT -6
What I came away with was the realization (or maybe reminder) of how so many women have been swept up into a way of thinking about themselves and what they "should be", and Hollywood was right there to take advantage of it. The whole basis of the feminist movement wasn't to make women into Amazons; it was to break open the confines women had been forced into and allow them to make up their own minds what they wanted to be (and take men right along with them). Instead, it was perverted into enemy camps. The suits decided that the women in faux BSG should be these Amazons and women decided that these would be their heroes - er, heroines. Whatever. So any perceived "attack" on the show - even if it were only being used as an example for the whole Hollywood mindset - was an attack on women in general. Which is balderdash, of course.
The whole perversion of feminism was clearly illustrated to me at a convention in Vancouver a few years ago (some of you have heard this story before ). They had a panel of women from various Sci-Fi shows on, and they and the audience were totally enthralled with all the "strong women" portrayed on TV and in the movies. Then they turned around and whined about not having mentors to help women get into directing and producing. So much for strong women. I not only found that hypocritical, but I doubt very much they'd have managed very well in the "real world". Very nicely said and apt too. I would have liked to have been at that convention. ;D |
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Post by bibbinut on Jan 17, 2009 10:55:10 GMT -6
Well, I had to register just so I could answer--hope you don't mind, since I wasn't one "here" . . . ;-) I do agree with what you've said. I personally found it wryly amusing! Anyone taking offense (other than the "Suits"!) simply failed to comprehend what he said. I do not know, even after having finished "Confessions", whether he is a feminist or a male chauvinist, but it does not seem to me that he has anything against strong female characters--just perverting what the original Battlestar Galactica WAS. They were capitalizing on the name, the franchise, but making the concept totally different, too cowardly to come up with a new name, or new character names! Anyway, I LOVE his use of words, and especially the play on words in the title! I have to smile every time I think of it. Well said! ;D I too LOVE the use of his words. ;D They sure did pervert what the original Battlestar Galactica WAS. I've always had a place in my heart for the original and for me "the true" Battlestar Galactica series. It was a high quality show and all the members of the family could watch it. I don't think you need to have violence, etc. to make a good science fiction show. I also think that Dirk is not a male chauvinist. Not at all. Just a person who speaks his mind and is very articulate. |
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Post by juanita on Jan 23, 2009 23:56:50 GMT -6
Y'know, I do think I'm gonna have to agree, that he does not seem to be a male chauvinist, after just reading his books. He is proud of the athleticism of both his wife Toni (I liked how he said his "one and only wife"), and his high school sweetheart Cynthia! And, I have yet to figure out why I'm so intrigued by this guy . . . I'd thought it might be because we are so close to the same age, and that (if I can believe an interview I read) we started flying the *same* year!  but, I've never felt like I wanted to do any hangar flying with any other person in the public eye. Guess he manages to come across as a "regular guy"! Eh? |
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). They had a panel of women from various Sci-Fi shows on, and they and the audience were totally enthralled with all the "strong women" portrayed on TV and in the movies. Then they turned around and whined about not having mentors to help women get into directing and producing. So much for strong women. I not only found that hypocritical, but I doubt very much they'd have managed very well in the "real world". 
but, I've never felt like I wanted to do any hangar flying with any other person in the public eye. Guess he manages to come across as a "regular guy"! Eh?